HGR 008: An Average College Student to Reality TV Winner In One Open Casting Call With Ian Terry – Part 2

by Dan Gheesling

This is the 2nd Part of the Interview with Ian Terry, to listen to the 1st Part click here.

How-To-Get-On-Reality-TV-Ian-TerryThe eight episode of the How To Get On Reality TV podcast is an interview with Ian Terry, a 21 year old college student who got cast on his first attempt on his favorite show Big Brother.

(Ian also ended up winning the whole show!)

Ian shares with his story of how he got cast on Big Brother 14 along with some interesting things he did along the way.

This Part 2 of the Interview with Ian Terry. To listen to Part 1 click here.

You will also find out in this episode:

  • How Ian made it through the Finals
  • His best advice when reaching the end parts of Reality TV Casting
  • Plus much more…

This episode will help you understand the Open Casting call process from the applicants point of view.

Podcast Notes:

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Podcast Episode Transcript:

Dan Gheesling: This is the “How To Get On Reality TV Podcast” with Dan Gheesling: Episode Eight — this one is for the Canadians.

Welcome to the “How To Get On Reality TV Podcast,” where you will learn everything you need to know about getting cast on a reality television show. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know where to start OR if you have applied many, many times before. This podcast will help you improve your casting game.

Welcome back to another episode of the podcast. I’m super excited that you decided to tune in, and I hope you guys enjoy the conclusion of Ian Terry’s story. You know, I just got back from Canada, had a lot of fun, had a chance to help promote the new season of Big Brother and really also got a chance to sit behind the scenes and see how a reality TV show is actually produced, which is a whole other story but I really had a great time and shout out to everyone that made that possible, especially everyone in Canada that kinda bent over backwards to welcome me. And before we get into the conclusion of Ian Terry’s story, I just wanted to take a quick second and thank one of the listeners, “CARE214.” I really, really appreciate you taking the time out to leave a review on iTunes, it helped so much, and if you haven’t had a chance to leave a review for this podcast in iTunes, please do so. You know, don’t feel any pressure to rate it five stars, rate it whatever you feel it deserves. Whether anywhere from one to five stars, I really appreciate it so, “CARE214,” thank you so, so much for doing that.

So without any further ado, we’re gonna wrap up Ian Terry’s story in Part 2 of “An Average College Student To Reality TV Winner In One Open Casting Call.” I hope you guys enjoy it.

Dan Gheesling: Um, and it’s funny Ian, I pulled this up here if you don’t mind me reading. When Ian downloaded the book, because, for those of you who aren’t familiar with Big Brother, Ian and I ended up being on the same show. And, uh, when Ian downloaded the book he wrote me an email. Do you care if I read that email right now, Ian?

Ian Terry: No, that’s fine.

Dan Gheesling: Okay, it was sent to me on (and I’ll include a copy of this on the website) but it was sent to me on May 6, 2012. And this is how smart Ian is because at this point he’s still not showing his hand but here’s Ian’s email. It says: “Hey Dan. Just finishing up finals and about to send in my audition tape.” So Ian, right off the bat, he’s lying to me. (both laugh) That’s very smart. He goes: “I have a couple of exams left, but have 9 hours of testing left today. Have a good one! Best, IPT.”

And, you know, that’s smart on Ian’s part because I’m guessing, at the point…what was the mindset when you sent me that email? You just didn’t wanna risk anything, right?

Ian Terry: Right. Um… you know I kinda figured, like, you don’t wanna really be…they asked me at one point, they were like “Do you know any Houseguests?” and I said “No.” Then they were like “Okay. Alright well don’t be… like don’t call up a former winner and ask for tips, because you know we’ll find out about it.” Cause someone tried and then, you know, and that winner said “Hey, this person said they got through the next round and called me and, you know, obviously that’s like breach of confidentiality right there so you’re disqualified. So I can’t say something like “Okay! I’m moving onto the next round, Dan!” and then it’s like, well, send that one right to Robyn! (Dan laughs)

Dan Gheesling: Yeah and you know, that’s huge thing and that’s important for me to touch on right here. Anyone that does contact me, it’s the same thing. You know, when I started HowToGetOnRealityTV.net my goal was to help people, you know, so even if Ian had told me that he was in the Finals it wouldn’t have mattered to me at this point. It’s not like I’m going to blast anything out but it is something important to talk about, you know, when you get deep in the casting process keep it to yourself, you know? The fastest way you could get disqualified is for people finding out that you’re getting far.

Ian Terry: Yeah, it’s really funny, like I would see people on Twitter that would be like…there was a thread on one website and it was like “In this thread it’s going to be idiots that publically post out that they’re through to the next round.” and then someone’s like “Awe, yeah! I just got my semifinal call for Big Brother!” and then someone tweets that directly to Robyn Kass, and, not the best idea!

Dan Gheesling: Yeah, I can picture you just sitting back as you’re reading that tweet just like twiddling your thumbs evilly saying “There’s someone else who just got knocked out!” (laughs)

Ian Terry: I mean yeah exactly, exactly.

Dan Gheesling: But it’s funny and then, obviously…Ian, do you remember the response I had to that email?

Ian Terry: It was probably a canned response, I didn’t think much of it. “GOOD LUCK!” in all capitals?

Dan Gheesling: There it is! I knew you’d remember! I actually responded to Ian in all caps “Good Luck” so for those of you who listen to this podcast who might be Big Brother fans, Ian and I did talk before the show but this was the extent of it. Which is cool, you know….not to talk about Big Brother cause that’s not what this podcast is about, but it did mean a lot when you walked in the house and you said you read my book. It’s like…it was cool. And you know it’s funny to me looking at everything we’ve gone through, Ian, to look back at this email and laugh.

Ian Terry: Yeah, that was…that was really funny for me cause as you as I walk into the house it was like…what a weird twist of fate that, you know, on the final night I’m sitting next to…yeah, that was really weird. That’s just, eh…again, it’s not about Big Brother but I think the weird thing is like we obviously had the conversation in the house with Mike where we talked about winning and we were like “In order for you to win this show, everything has to go exactly right. In order to walk out into confetti.” And then I got to thinking about that after the show and it’s like in order for this to have happened, not only did everything have to go exactly right in Big Brother 14, it also had to go exactly the way it did in 10, 12, 2, and 7…and 6. So, it’s really interesting…but enough about that.

Dan Gheesling: Yeah, so final line: in order to get cast, a lot of stuff has to fall into place…but let’s move forward. So you do some preparation because you know there’s a lot on the line when you…well you didn’t even get the call yet. Tell me about the call where you actually got accepted to Finals.

Ian Terry: Right. So I had just finished up my exams for the semester, um, maybe a day or two before so I was anxiously awaiting grades for that. Um, I was lying in bed, it was probably about 12:00 noon because I was trying to recoup some sleep, and um, you know I was really tired, and the phone rings. I had noticed it was that same area code that I got the call from, I was like “Oh man! This might be it.” So then I got the call and they were like “Anybody around?” and I was like “Nobody’s around.”  and they go “Well, congratulations! You’re through to the next round!” and I was like “Holy shit!” at this point I’m thinking like, you know, if I understood correctly there is probably going to be about 50 or so people in this final round based on what I had read from your thing and some of the Reality Blurred articles. So I was like “Man. 14 out of 50 chance…that’s like very, very realistic.” I mean I’m sure it’s a little higher because of other factors.

Dan Gheesling: What’s the percentage on that by the way? Just to show off your statistical analysis. (laughs)

Ian Terry: I mean, a 6th grader could come up with that but it’s about a 28% chance.

Dan Gheesling: Sorry, I’m getting totally off track here. Alright so you’re lying there and you have a slight convulsion because you’re excited, and uh…

Ian Terry: Yeah, that’ll get ya out of bed. (laughs)

Dan Gheesling: So then what was next? They emailed you over some paperwork with the dates and..?

Ian Terry: Oh yeah, I mean, it was a long conversation. Long conversation there. But that was also the first time I’ve actually talked to Robyn Kass over the phone. That was really interesting.

Dan Gheesling: Yeah, tell me about that. What was that like? Cause, you know, anyone who knows Big Brother casting knows the name Robyn Kass.

Ian Terry: Yeah, I knew that she was in charge of casting. That was one of the few things I knew, you know, going into it. Uh, you know, I talked to her and she’s like “Well congratulations Ian, we’re really interested to have you come out to LA and play the game a little bit for a week.” So obviously, you know, play the game for a week was kinda like the casting process cause, you know, to them the game started at that first casting call. I think it was like “Play with us for a week.” was the exact phrase used. So, um, that’s what she said and I was like “Wow, this is really interesting.” So this was like the real deal. I’m going out to LA to see what might happen here and I’ve got a realistic chance of getting in that house.

Dan Gheesling: And then so you kinda work that out with her. You’re fired up because you were just talking to Robyn Kass. And when did this call come in roughly? Do you remember?

Ian Terry: Uh, yeah I do. It was May…17th.

Dan Gheesling: Okay. And then how much time did you have to prepare between that call and to actually go out to LA?

Ian Terry: Um…that was about three weeks. Two-three weeks.

Dan Gheesling: Okay. So you get off the call with Robyn and you get your flight             and stuff booked, um, you’re excited. You got some preparation, you know, you’ve done some preparation. So tell me what it’s like when you first got to LA. You get off the flight. I mean, what are you walking into?

Ian Terry: Uh, no talking to anybody. You are to take this, you know, shuttle to this location. You’re not to talk to anybody. You are to do this, you will do this, do not do this. I felt like James Bond on some secret mission. I wasn’t allowed to…I really had to keep as low profile as humanely possible.

Dan Gheesling:  Let me ask you this: being the gamer that you are, did you strictly follow those rules or were you trying to catch glimpses of people whether to read them or were you just straight business and listened to what they said?

Ian Terry: You know, I listened to what the said but the thing was that I noticed that looking at other people was not against the rules. Now, interacting certainly would be but looking at other people definitely was not, so, one thing that I thought of was, you know, it might be a good idea for me to look at someone of these other people and then if I were to go into an interview, you know, just trash talk a little bit, you know? So I remember just seeing one girl there and I was like “They got one girl down there that she thinks she’s really hot but she just looks like she’s constipated. So, you know, I was talking trash. I was really trying to get good information on people and I would go to great lengths because, uh, they had one guy that I would see pretty frequently and he would wear t-shirts and they had the name of his gym and then the gym’s logo on it, so I went right back to my hotel room, you know, just punched that name into Google to verify that it matched the logo I was like okay, I know where this guy’s from, I know what he’s probably like based on where he’s from. So I’m getting really good information about my potential competitors here. So I was definitely paying a lot of attention to the other people to try to get an edge.

Dan Gheesling: That’s great, you know, that’s a great tip is that you used your environment to help…not just to help your gameplay but to help you in the casting process. The fact that you took that information and used it to bash someone and, you know, that’s not your typical personality to bash someone but you wanted to stand out and I think that’s a great tip for people that are listening that can, you know, if you’re self-aware and know what’s going on, you know, you’re an example of that. That’s really smart that you did that. Um, yeah, go ahead.

Ian Terry: And another thing that I was really careful about was, like, when I went there I didn’t bring any Tulane t-shirts and, you know, I didn’t my shirt that said “Tulane Chemical Engineering Society” and had a bunch of equations written all over it because I don’t want someone to see that and go “Oh, ‘Tulane Chemical Engineering Society’, type it in and pull up a Facebook group and then some find, you know, my profile somehow linked to that. And then, right there they know my identity, likes, dislikes, weaknesses, strengths right off the bat and that’s horrible. So, I was very careful to keep my profile low.

Dan Gheesling: That’s smart.

Ian Terry: Well, to an extent. (both laugh)

Dan Gheesling: No, keeping your profiling low while exposing others, which is a really smart thing to do.

Ian Terry: I will say one really funny thing that happened was, and I really think it went hand-in-hand with this character that I had built up is just like: random guy that’s just a total wildcard and just does not really care about what anybody’s is thinking. We had time to go to a pool, like, as a little bit of a break and, um you know, I didn’t think anything of it so I just saw the pool and, you know, how do you get into a pool? I just ran, did a huge cannonball, and then ended up actually splashing someone that was laying out that happens to get into the house and also play.

(both laugh)

Dan Gheesling: Really?!

Ian Terry: Yeah! Yeah.

Dan Gheesling: I’ve never heard that story…who was it?

Ian Terry: …It was Frank. So, Frank definitely got a little bit of a splash from my cannonball. And then I saw people with walkie-talkies going into berserk mode cause, you know, I’m drawing a ton of attention to myself doing that.

Dan Gheesling:  That’s funny, man! Alright, so let’s talk about during the Finals process, like, what were the big things that stand out to you? So obviously can you talk about the big interviews you had, um, during the actual Finals?

Ian Terry: Uh, yeah, I mean I got some…I recognized some like “Oh my god, like, that’s Allison Grodner, like that’s…that’s the voice that came over the loudspeaker when Chima got expelled…this is a big deal! Like, I recognized the voice, like, this is a big deal here!” And then I remember seeing…um…who else was in there? Well Robyn Kass, I recognized her. I figured out that uh the guy, I just referred to him as guy with glasses, I had figured out that was Rich Meehan. And then the craziest one was uh when I heard Don Wollman speak I thought it was like “Was that the voice that calls into the Diary Room on the feeds?” Um, so, they were there and uh…

Dan Gheesling: And just real quick for people who aren’t familiar with Big Brother, the names of the people that Ian is naming off: Rich Meehan, Allison Grodner, Robyn Kass, these are all the Executive Producers and, well, Robyn Kass is not, she’s a Casting Producer but these are the decision makers and Ian recognized these people as being the head honchos of the show.

Ian Terry: They are very important. So I knew that talking to them is like, you know, it really goes back to like: this is intense, like, this is…there’s a very realistic chance of going in, like, they wouldn’t be talking to me if there was no chance, you know?

Dan Gheesling: Yeah, so tell me about, so you see these people when you walk into the room. Tell me what the room was like that you walked in and what you did.

Ian Terry: Uh, I just sat down and I was, you know, I tried to be as collected as possible but I’ll admit I was pretty nervous at this point but I just kinda like, you know, sat down and made myself comfortable, you know, looked around the room and uh…I remember I took my glasses off and like kinda cleaned them and then put them back on. Even though they serve no purpose at all, so you know, I remember just being really nervous about it.

Dan Gheesling: Did you do that consciously or just, um, like did you make a point to do that or were you just nervous so like you would wipe off your glasses? Cause I’m just thinking…

Ian Terry: I was really nervous! And, uh, I think that probably helped because, like, it’s like here’s this awkward, nervous guy…it’s just like you know…this character, you know…so I think it helped.

Dan Gheesling: That’s awesome! So did you remember how the questions…do any questions or any responses that happened during that time… Does anything stick out to you?

Ian Terry: You know, um,             some of the questions were very much similar to, um, questions that were asked in the semi-final and I think that was on purpose to see if the answer would change at all. So then they’d know kinda just to see that. You know, they asked some things like: “So, do you have any crazy funny talents?” so of course I bring up kicking myself in the head. Um, you know, one thing they asked a lot of questions about that actually had me reasonably concern for a while was I remember Allison asking me very specifically like: “What was your last relationship like and how did it end?” and I remember thinking back to these X-Factor videos where they’re going on and on about this and then I, you know, answered into it and I was, you know, thinking in the back of my mind “Oh god, please don’t let that be, you know, the twist.”

Dan Gheesling: Did you respond to that question very honestly, like, did you tell the story?

Ian Terry:  Oh yeah, I gave like the you know…it’s like “Well why is this not still going on?” It’s like, well, you know I had a thing for this girl and things were going in the right direction definitely and then I went to school so I moved away and that…it just never worked. And we’re not on good terms now because of some things and it was, you know…So obviously I went into about it and I gave an honest answer. And, you know, there were other…there were other…I was trying to get a feel for like if there was going to be some kind of twist involved I would think that it would be asked about. And, I mean, there was one theme of questions that got asked frequently enough that I was concerned about it.

Dan Gheesling: That’s interesting. Let me ask you this in terms of the questions…

Ian Terry: And then also like current relationship status like they were really pressing about that too and if I was perusing anybody. So that got asked about and that also had me worried.

Dan Gheesling: That’s interesting. Let me ask you this then, it may not have happened to you or not but, were there any questions that you picked up on that helped depict the character that you were? Like, did you notice that they would ask you things about science in particular or kind of, you know, in terms of that character?

Ian Terry: Yeah.

Dan Gheesling: Could you pick on how they were trying to cast you?

Ian Terry: I could. They asked like “What does a chemical engineer do? Like, you’re a chemical engineering student…what does a chemical engineer do? What do you do in your average day? Like, what would…like, someone sees chemical engineering student they might not know what you’re doing, you know, how would you explain it to us?” Just like, basic explanation. So I was like “Well, I would…” then I have some sort of egg-headed response just like to…then I said “Well, in layman’s terms it’s like…say you wanna make a pudding and you have this great recipe for a pudding and, you know, you’re gonna try and market it and sell it in mass. Well, that pudding has to be exactly the same every single time that you make this pudding and you’re no long making it for a family of four, you’re making it on a huge scale. So the chemical engineer is gonna say ‘Well, I need to make this sorta machine. I need to come up with this way to make sure that pudding will come out exactly the same every single time in batches of larger quantities that will be sold to millions of people.” So I went on this rant about how that could be anything from pudding to paint.

Dan Gheesling:  Got it. Okay. So you were aware, you had some idea that they were going to put you in this role and plus you were portraying that role to them as well and kind of extenuating that. So after that, so you wrap up, do you remember how that interview wrapped up with all the Executive Producers and how Robyn in the room, how did that wrap up for you and how did you feel leaving there?

Ian Terry: You know, they seemed to think that I was kinda funny. There were a lot of laughs, there was a lot of, like, funny joking moments during the interview, um, Rich was really funny during the interview and he…I felt good about it, I felt that I had a really good chance.

Dan Gheesling: Okay, so then you…you’re feeling good, you know you’re getting reactions from them, much like you did from the casting producer in semi-finals, so you leave the room. Then what happens? What’s like the next big event that happened for you?

Ian Terry:  I left the room and they were like “You’re going to have a really short interview today and, you know, it’s going to be much short than the last one but we just wanna see some things here.” So I went back up and then, cause I read your book, I knew what to expect. I knew what this was. So, head of CBS Reality was there. I knew this was a really big deal, so I knew I was kinda getting closer than I already was because, let’s face it, if they weren’t a little more interested in putting me on the show then they were at the beginning of the week, I wouldn’t be talking to this head of CBS Reality.

Dan Gheesling: And where did they take you? Like, where did you go from the Executive Producer             room to the next room? Were you in a hotel? Was it on the lot? Do you remember where that was?

Ian Terry: This was still at a hotel.

Dan Gheesling: Okay. So you went and actually met the head of CBS Reality in a hotel?

Ian Terry: Correct.

Dan Gheesling: Okay. Who else was in that room? Do you remember who else was in that room?

Ian Terry: All of the Executive Producers.

Dan Gheesling: And how did that interview go?

Ian Terry: I thought it went pretty well, I mean, it was really short. But the one thing I would say is that the head of CBS Reality…she asked like touch questions. Almost like rapid fire. So anything that I would answer, she would just snap back right at me to try to get me to like contradict myself or to get me to stumble over my words. So I would just answer and try to be fairly confident in my answer and like I remember one thing I was like “If there was a hot girl in the house, I could definitely be in a lot of trouble because, you know, I could maybe see myself getting used by some girl leading me on.” And then she just fires back “Okay, well it’s pretty obvious there are going to be hot girls in the house so are you automatically going to be screwed right from the beginning just because they are hot girls? Because let me tell you, there are going to be hot girls in the house. All the girls we put into the house are beautiful in at least some way.” So it’s kinda like woah, you know, really really sharp response right back as to what I had said. Then I was like “I mean no, I just need to figure out who is genuine and who’s not. I’m going to have to just be smart about it. I mean, I won’t get played, there’s no way I’d let that happen. I just have to be really careful about it.” But she would just fire these questions out it was definitely to get you, like, to contradict yourself or at least think like “Well, if I’m going to be going in to the house maybe I need to be careful so I answered at least how I might adapt to a weakness that I figured that I had.

Dan Gheesling: Got it. And like heading into that interview with her, did you know that was gonna happen or what it something you realized that was what she was trying to do?

Ian Terry: I did read in your book, I think it was in your book, that she was gonna ask really tough question to try and get in your head a little bit.

Dan Gheesling: Got it. And so do you feel like when you entered that interview with the head of reality, do you feel like you faltered at all? It sounds like you did a really good job answering questions.

Ian Terry: Yeah, I feel like I did a really good job answering. I had a good feeling about it and I kinda knew a little bit what to expect and the key here was to not get flustered. I feel like getting flustered here was a bad thing. I just feel like answering confidently. You know, she was like “Obviously there are going to be beautiful women in the house, are you gonna be screwed right from the beginning?” I was like ”Well not necessarily because, you know, if I really just take a step back and think about who’s genuine and who isn’t, you know, then I might be able to get a better idea of who I should be working with and who I shouldn’t be.” So just having a way, it’s like, answer the question, fires back, thoughtful response and what I would actually do in the situation to show that I’m thinking about the game.

Dan Gheesling: Got it. Now, let me ask you this: in terms of time, how long was this last interview versus the Executive Producer interview?

Ian Terry: The Executive Producer interview, that was probably a good 20-30 minutes. But this one was way short, I mean, this one was 5-10 minutes.

Dan Gheesling: Okay. And how do this one wrap up?

Ian Terry: Um, basically, the head of CBS Reality was like “Okay, that’s all I have to say. That’s all I have to ask.” And she was kind of like nodding. She just nodded and the Executive Producers got their clipboards out and just started writing stuff down. And, uh, that was it. Casting Producer said good job and I was like “Alright, well I guess I did as good as I can.” That was another thing…when I went to the Executive Producer meeting, a Casting Producer said to me “I’m thinking some really good things for you because, you know, you were in that first interview for a long time. You were in there a good 25-30 minutes so they must have been really interested.”

Dan Gheesling: And you heard that before you met with the head of CBS Reality?

Ian Terry: Yes, I did hear that.

Dan Gheesling: That’s awesome, that’s good to hear. So you leave that last interview and then what happens next for you? Like is that it for you?

Ian Terry: No, no, no. There was a little field trip, that was kinda fun. But um, not reall major. Then we got to one more interview with the Executive Producers.

Dan Gheesling: The head of CBS was not there?

Ian Terry: Yeah. I would imagine that’s who it was like it was some high up. And she was there and so was head of CBS Reality. And this was like the one last chance to really make a strong impression.

Dan Gheesling: And let me ask you this real quick: was this in a hotel or was this on a lot?

Ian Terry: No, this was, the house was there. In fact, the Casting Producer said to us “If you look over there, right there, that green fence…is the house.” And then he goes “Probably less than a quarter of you will be living in there this summer.” Obviously getting close but not quite there yet. And I was told that those were not the only people here, there are other people. So don’t count the number of people in the room and get your hopes up. Needless to say, I did count the other people in the room.

(both laugh)

Dan Gheesling: Now were you actually put in the cafeteria area?

Ian Terry: Yep.

Dan Gheesling: Now was it exactly as it was described?

Ian Terry: Yes, exactly the same.

Dan Gheesling: So you tell me, did they take you from the cafeteria to the…how did they take you from the cafeteria to the big, big interview?

Ian Terry: Took me up a set of stairs that I recognized from the book. It was the exact same. I knew exactly where I was. And um, I was there, I didn’t anyone else go before or after me so I didn’t know. But I kinda talked a little bit of trash on some of the people. I talked about how some of the girls were looking kinda good. And I was hoping to maybe hook up in the house. And then what happened was Allison Grodner “Yeah, you’re a big fan of the show, you’ve been watching this since you were how old?” and I was like “Ten.” And they go “So, who are some of your favorite Houseguests that maybe wouldn’t be like the typical answers?” I said “I actually really like Roddy from Big Brother 3 and Jack from Big Brother 4.” So I’m like reaching way back in the time machine.

Dan Gheesling: So she asked you for non-typical answers? Or was that something…

Ian Terry:  Yeah, it was like kinda show us your stuff. So I gave those two and I was like “Those are actually two of my very favorites. I really feel like Jack is one of the unsung heroes of the show and I really actually wonder why a lot more people don’t say he’s one of their favorites because he’s definitely in one of my top three all-time.” And then she goes “Well, it’s probably because Jack didn’t make it very far.” And I just immediately without missing a beat snapped back “He came in sixth place, that’s a pretty good thing!”

(Dan laughs)

Dan Gheesling: Did they all look around like how did he know that?!

Ian Terry: Yeah, they looked around and then Robyn was like “Wow, he really does know everything.” So that was the last thing I said and I really think that was good because it just shows that I know the game…just a really good answer just snapped backed. Without missing a beat. I think that was probably the best answer to give.

Dan Gheesling: Man, what I would have given to be a fly on the wall the second you walked out of that door. They probably looked at each other saying “this guy knows more about the show than we do.” That’s funny. That’s awesome!

Ian Terry: It was very funny. I mean, I had a decent feeling. I had a good feeling about it.

Dan Gheesling: So you walk out. You walk down the stairs, you hang out in the cafeteria, you wait to get loaded back in the van. And then was that your last night there?

Ian Terry: That was the last day. That was the last night there. So, I left the next day.

Dan Gheesling:  And before you left, did anyone come in to check on you to say you did a good job? Or you’re going to hear from us then…? What was your last moments of interaction with the casting team and the producers?

Ian Terry: Um…they gave us a cupcake and said “You were great today.” And that was it. I’m not joking…that was what happened…we got a cupcake.

Dan Gheesling:  Did you eat the cupcake?

Ian Terry: I did eat the cupcake.

Dan Gheesling:  What flavor was it? Do you remember?

Ian Terry: It was that, uh, the red…

Dan Gheesling:  Velvet?

Ian Terry: Yeah, red velvet.

Dan Gheesling:  At that point did it taste like a half million dollars that you were about it win six months later?

Ian Terry: You know, I had a feeling that I was in there but I didn’t want to be too cocky about it. I was thinking there’s a chance I’ll get in and a chance I don’t.

Dan Gheesling:  Alright, so to wrap everything up here: so you leave LA, you fly home. We’re like at end of May-ish?

Ian Terry: Oh no, we’re mid-June.

Dan Gheesling:  Okay, so mid-June. And then, tell me what you were doing and what it was like when you got the call.

Ian Terry: Well, see, that was the thing. Mine was a little bit different than yours in that the only confirmation that I got that I was going in the house was when I finally got the invitation.

Dan Gheesling:  Alright, so did they call? How did they let you know they were coming? What was the communication that you got that made you think that maybe this is the next step?

Ian Terry: I got a call saying that I was in the top 25 I think it was. And then honestly they were like “We’re coming to get some additional footage for casting.” So I figured this is kind of interesting, you know, I don’t think that they would come and not put me on the show. But as we know, Frank was an alternate so it’s very possible that if you get the call for additional footage, you might not make it. So I got that call and I had to have my bags packed and ready to go at just a moment’s notice just in case.

Dan Gheesling:  So they told you to pack your bags?

Ian Terry: Right. But, you know, it was not for sure and it very well could’ve not been for sure I mean…if Mike the sailing instructor doesn’t drop out, Joe would’ve gotten a season invitation to the show and doesn’t get in. So obviously didn’t want to get my hopes up just yet and when I saw the invitation that was the moment when it finally clicked. But then immediately I was like “Where’s my key?” you know?

Dan Gheesling:  I’m gonna take a half-step back though, Ian, when you got that call…are you super excited, are you excited but you’re skeptical? I mean, did you feel like you had accomplished something at that point or you just weren’t all in then?

Ian Terry: You know, what I said to myself was I am really deep in this, you know, I’ve gotten far so there must be something in me that they like. So even if I don’t get in this year, there’s always next year, which is what I said to myself.

Dan Gheesling:  That’s a good attitude to have. Now Ian, as we wrap up this interview, one thing I’d like to ask is, particularly people who have been on a reality show before is: I know we’ve kinda talked about a lot of things that you did indifferent, but if you could give a listener who’s listening to this podcast who’s, I put us in the same category, we’re both normal guys that ended up getting on a reality show, what is the best single piece of advice you could give them – besides be yourself?

Ian Terry: I will always say…I hate to say that, but you have to be yourself in at least some way. You can’t create some new persona that’s not you because they’ll see right through that. You want to pick out a few characteristics about yourself that you think would be your selling point and then just run with those in extreme. So I just said I’m nerdy, science guy, doesn’t really care what people think about him, like I do crazy silly things and just run with that. So I just took those three, ran with it, and tried to piece this character together.

Dan Gheesling:  That’s some great advice, Ian. And if the listeners, people listening right now, want to get in touch with you like in social media, what’s the best way for them to get in touch with you or follow you or whatnot?

Ian Terry: Um, Twitter is usually the best way. I really like Twitter for that purpose. I try to respond to tweets to me. Sometimes I get a lot and it gets a backlog and maybe I don’t but I try to tweet fairly enough.

Dan Gheesling:  Okay. And what’s your Twitter handle so we can.

Ian Terry: It’s @TulaneTerry.

Dan Gheesling:  Okay, I’ll put that in the show notes as well so people can connect with you there. Ian, man, I just wanna thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story and all your great advice. To me this has been a true pleasure because you define, for me, what I enjoy watching on reality TV. It’s when someone who really loves the show and is a normal guy finds a way to get on. So it’s been a pleasure, man, thank you so much for coming out. We really appreciate it.

Ian Terry: Alright, thanks for having me!

Dan Gheesling:  Alright, see ya buddy.

Ian Terry: Okay, yep, see ya.

Dan Gheesling:  One final thank you to Ian Terry for coming on the podcast and really sharing his story. If there’s one thing you take away from Ian’s story is with a little preparation, and some confidence, you never know what’s really gonna happen. He started as a 21 year old college student and now he walked away with a half million dollars and, you know, I’m happy for him. And it’s a good story and I hope you guys were able to draw a lot from that because he went through a lot to get cast and I was just really excited to have him on here and share his story with you.

I just also wanted to remind you that, if you want to access any of the links or articles that was mentioned in this podcast, you can find them all in the show notes at HowToGetOnRealityTV.net/Episode8. Once again, that will have all links, a copy of the email that Ian and I exchanged as you know just something to laugh at and look back at. But you can find all of that at HowToGetOnRealityTV.net/Episode8.

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up that every other Wednesday a new episode of the podcast is gonna be released so if you’re listening to this live and it was just released, you gotta wait two week but, if you’re listening to this in the future, then the next episode is probably already out. So I just wanted to remind you that every other Wednesday a new podcast will be posted, and on top of that I just wanted to give you a little inside information that I’ve been working on the “How To Get On Reality TV” video course and it’s gonna be released shortly so, if you want to find out more information about how you can access that and when it’s going to be released, you can go to HowToGetOnRealityTV.net/Course and at the bottom there’s an email signup list where I’m going to be releasing information on that shortly. So once again thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of the podcast, hope you guys learned a ton, had some fun, and I’ll see you next time!

Oh, and one more thing – if you ever make a trip to Canada, make sure you take some time to try Poutine…because it’s incredible. See you guys!

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Kerry March 6, 2013 at 5:51 pm

I really enjoy your podcast. One of the many things I like is you don’t talk over your guest, great questions, easy to understand, good flow!



Dan Gheesling March 9, 2013 at 4:27 am

Thanks Kerry I appreciate that feedback, glad you are enjoying it. :)


Krista March 6, 2013 at 8:25 pm

I loved listening to the interview with Ian (parts 1 and 2)! Honestly, it was good to hear you two chatting and reminiscing–after the season 14 finale it seemed like there was a lot of bad blood there so it’s nice to know that outside of the house there’s no hard feelings.

All the inside information about casting from Ian’s perspective was really interesting, too–I was fascinated with all the interviews and the whole process! Thanks for posting this!


Bobby Flynne March 7, 2013 at 1:39 am

Hey Dan

Thanks for another insightful podcast man. Wow I can’t believe even Ian asked you for help! That’s what I would have done too if I was in finals :)

Awesome appearance on BB Canada too by the way. Well done man, well done.



Richie March 16, 2013 at 4:59 pm


Great stuff on this website! There are lots to learn and tons of valuable advice being shared.

Thank you,


Dan Gheesling March 18, 2013 at 10:04 pm

My pleasure Richie! Thanks for the kind words!


Mary Henderson March 25, 2013 at 2:35 am

Dan, don’t have i-tunes to rate you. If there’s another way I can I will. Please let me know. I’d give ya 10 stars of five….you’re the best!!! :)


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